Earth Day Flier

[KarenRei]

I'm thinking about making a flier to hand out on Earth Day listing some of the more promising upcoming affordable EVs/PHEVs and their stats. By affordable, I was thinking <$40k, preferably $20-30k. Obviously, the Aptera tops the list. Other vehicles I was thinking about listing are the MiEV, the Volt, and the VentureOne. I was considering the R1e, but its range and top speed made me decide not to (now, if Subaru were to announce plans for the G4e...).

Can anyone think of any other good ones I should add?

[SpyderMike]

How about some motorcycles like the Enertia or Zero?

[Matthijs]

I'm thinking about making a flier to hand out on Earth Day listing some of the more promising upcoming affordable EVs/PHEVs and their stats. By affordable, I was thinking <$40k, preferably $20-30k. Obviously, the Aptera tops the list. Other vehicles I was thinking about listing are the MiEV, the Volt, and the VentureOne. I was considering the R1e, but its range and top speed made me decide not to (now, if Subaru were to announce plans for the G4e...).

Can anyone think of any other good ones I should add?
How about the Loremo EV? http://evolution.loremo.com It's still a bit far of but there are plans to get the car to the US and also some americans active on the forum that have some idea's how to get the Loremo to the US. :)

[DDB]

I'm thinking about making a flier to hand out on Earth Day listing some of the more promising upcoming affordable EVs/PHEVs and their stats. By affordable, I was thinking <$40k, preferably $20-30k. Obviously, the Aptera tops the list. Other vehicles I was thinking about listing are the MiEV, the Volt, and the VentureOne. I was considering the R1e, but its range and top speed made me decide not to (now, if Subaru were to announce plans for the G4e...).

Can anyone think of any other good ones I should add?


Vectrix is a safe bet, although people think it's over priced I do not. http://www.vectrix.com/portal/

If you want to get into concepts, what about Think's Ox? Nissan's Mixim?

[KarenRei]

Good idea on motorcycles. I've seen a number on Autobloggreen that could be considered affordable; I'll probably pick one or two.

Looked up the Loremo EV. Sounds like they're talking about 100-120 mile range, which is acceptable. 0-60 in 15 seconds, though... that's rather slow. Also, they're saying "price below 30,000 euros". That's $47k. I think I'll leave this one off.

[KarenRei]

I considered the Th1nk City, which there are solid plans for, but it's way overpriced. The Ox is just a concept -- no solid plans, so I wouldn't want to list it and get people's hopes up. Mixim, too, is just a concept. I want things that there's a good chance that in a few years, people will be able to get their hands on, affordably, that will provide a general-purpose or mostly general-purpose replacement for a gasoline car. Which means no concepts (I'd list the G4e if I was going to list concepts :) ).

[Apteratude]

Karen. Too Coincidental! I also was thinking several days ago about making some one page flyers to hand to people to spread the good news about the Aptera. I mean, I tell people about it but wonder how many peeps actually check the website. I'll print up a few just to keep in my glove box. Maybe I'll hand them out while I'm at the gas station while pumping gas in my civic. People have nothing better to do for two minutes=) That may be the best chance for them to look at the Aptera. Plus, the high gas prices thing will be at the forefront of their minds.

It'll be like proselytizing at a funeral!

[KarenRei]

When I finish the flier, I'll post a link here. We need to spread the Good News. ;)

[KarenRei]

Okay -- flier made :) Any feedback you can give would be greatly appreciated.

http://www.daughtersoftiresias.org/images/EVFlier/

[Chupacabra]

I would keep it to vehicles under $40k unless you are planning on running around handing this out in an affluent neighborhood. An "affluent" flier might not be a bad idea either.

I would also stick to vehicles that have moved out of the concept phase and look like they will actually be made available, like the aptera.

[KarenRei]

Corrections to the above flier that I'll make when I get home: the Volt hasn't yet settled on a manufacturer, and only one of the one's it's considering is a phosphate (LG Chem's is a manganese spinel). Also, I thought the MiEV had declared it was using a phosphate, but I can't find anything to back that up right now, so I'm going to list it as an unknown li-ion variant.

[butter]

You know what I love about your flier is that it lays out facts very plainly -- and facts that naysayers would definitely be picking on. So as I was skimming over it, all I could think was how I could show people like my dad (and others) who, while they *want* to believe in EVs, are reluctant to, usually due to lack of information. And this is precisely the kind of info to help push them over the fence!

[KarenRei]

Yeay! After reviewing it, not only is iRenew going to give the EV fliers table space a the local "Earthapalooza" event, but the person I spoke to said that he'd also distribute them across the state over the next few months if I made enough of them. :)

[DDB]

Okay -- flier made :) Any feedback you can give would be greatly appreciated.

http://www.daughtersoftiresias.org/images/EVFlier/

Great looking flyer Karen, but it's sad it is such a short list and I just question the availability. Really the only vehicle "available" is the Vectrix and Tesla Roadster (way out of price range for many).

Ever think about conversion shops? Much cheaper. Hymotion, eBox, etc.?

[KarenRei]

I don't put much faith in conversions. Not only is the best you can do with the gasoline parts sell them aftermarket, but they're generally anything but standardization and mass production. And they're optimized for operation in conditions with a gasoline engine -- lots of surplus power for accessories, drag coefficients not as low as you really want for an EV, and so on. The cheap conversions usually turn out to be scams, and the legit conversions typically cost a lot of money once you want to be compensated for labor.

Economical EVs really need to be built as EVs from the ground up, IMHO.

Personally, I think this many EVs when there hasn't been a big EV success story is actually a very impressive thing. I see a competitive rush to meet a new, untested market. If the market can be proven, I think things will take off, sort of like how hybrids have.