Thanks RAL

[KarenRei]

For what it's worth, the same person posting as multiple identities is known as "sockpuppetting", and on Wikipedia, it can get you permanently banned.

[randyd]

Ban or not the sockpuppettiers. The Admins here, overall, have been doing a great job. I thank the moderators for culling the herd when necessary.

But I object to this "castigate but do not ban" policy being applied to Dr.D/RAL. If his puppetting has not risen to the point of being banned, then delete the duplicate accounts privately. Posting private information IS an abuse of Admin power.

I request that SeSby's Admin powers be suspended or removed permanently.

[RainCaster]

I post on many boards from multiple IPs- it is the nature of my job to have several IPs on a given day. I always use the same name, so I guess that's OK. Karen- am I a sockpuppet?

As for our admins- they get my vote of confidence. Leave all of them alone- they are doing a good job, and it is a job I surely don't want myself.

[aptera1213]

One account from multiple computers is fine...Probably most of us do that.



I don't think an IP address is personal info...but I will look into our agreement clause everyone signs when they join this forum. If it is not part of it, I will see that the agreement is changed to include this fact. Nobodies IP address is ever "safe". It is on just about every post you make, every email you send. If somebody is truly worried about their IP address being secret, well I suggest that person never get on the internet.

But we have released no personal info that I know of. Home address, email address, etc etc should be as private as the owner wants it to be.

But it is true...as moderators we should strive to be as careful as possible with email address and such.

Sebs doesn't have admin powers. But you are free to PM the Admin with your concerns. He is the only one who can "punish" Sebs or remove his moderator status.

Gavin

[KarenRei]

Originally Posted by RainCaster

I post on many boards from multiple IPs- it is the nature of my job to have several IPs on a given day. I always use the same name, so I guess that's OK. Karen- am I a sockpuppet?

No -- you have a single identity. You're not trying to pretend that you're multiple people.

[EV4ALL]

Originally Posted by SEGsby

It seems odd that you're supporting the actions of an identified, multiple account TROLL-- while attempting to re-frame the role of a mod as somehow more desirable to ignore whatever they do in the forum?

Your statements appear to be outside the realm of what is reasonable.

Sorry to disagree with you... But please feel free to participate here at whatever level you are comfortable with.

Actually I wouldn't have a
problem with the previous solution from aptera1213, just go ahead an without fanfare delete the account, if it went outside the rules of the forum. What I and others took issue with was your approach. When your attempts at mockery fail will my ip info also be posted? Funny how someone who decries adolescent behavior of RAL suddenly resorts to gotcha politicking and sarcasm just because others beg to differ. I was not defending o aligning with a troll just what is the right way and wrong way to behave.

[SEGsby]

No one complained when Mark Twain / Trojan Rabbit's information was posted publicly, so everyone knew without a doubt, he was simply a troll...

I only regret that I didn't catch the RAL / Dr. Detroit connection earlier. It would have saved everyone here, much grief.

Save the paranoia and drama for Fox News.

BTW, both Dr. Detroit accounts were banned for trollish abuse. I recommend the same for RAL, since they're clearly the same individual.

Thanks very much for your consideration for this request...

Originally Posted by randyd

Ban or not the sockpuppettiers. The Admins here, overall, have been doing a great job. I thank the moderators for culling the herd when necessary.

But I object to this "castigate but do not ban" policy being applied to Dr.D/RAL. If his puppetting has not risen to the point of being banned, then delete the duplicate accounts privately. Posting private information IS an abuse of Admin power.

I request that SeSby's Admin powers be suspended or removed permanently.

[Rembrant]

Originally Posted by SEGsby

@Rembrant: Remember when you first joined here? Snooping is what I do, and I verify if folks are spammers or not. As for flames; truth is the best flame of all. And only the registration IPs were shared. A number of other IPs have been used over time by the good Dr.

Yes I remember what you did when I first joined and still do not aprove of your actions in that case. But that's water under the bridge.
This is not about spammers. If you see spam then you ban the account, block the IP and delete the posts. Ideally this is all transparent to the other users.
In the case of sockpuppets I think you should PM the accounts in question and ask which of the accounts the user wants to keep. It would be a judgement call if they claim to be multiple people sharing a computer. Then delete the extra accounts. Again this should be transparent to the other users.
Posting IP's and telling everyone about it? That's taking advantage of your position to make someone you dissagree with and don't like look bad.
I don't think you should be punished. I just think it needed to be pointed out that I, for one, do not think this is a good way for a Super Moderator to handle the situation.

[RainCaster]

Originally Posted by KarenRei

No -- you have a single identity. You're not trying to pretend that you're multiple people.

This makes all the voices inside me smile.

That said, while I am ~relatively~ certain that SEGsby is correct about Dr. Detroit and RAL... There was a time not too long before I put down my deposit on a Typ1/Typ2e/PigTera that I worked for a large software firm- Fortune 500 material. I am certain that I was not the only one registered on various car and music boards I frequented. We all had the same IP- all 50,000+ of us were routed behind one corporate firewall. Please keep that in mind when investigating these (possible) troll accounts. If you are smart enough, you know the techniques to use, I won't elaborate.

[Scott]

For what it's worth, I am also (as I think I have posted before) not comfortable with the "overt and public" management of accounts and identities. I heartily approve of the traditional management responsibilities and prerogatives. I just wish the manager(s) would keep it discreet and just take care of it quietly.

I didn't approve of it before (with Mark Twain), and I still don't.

If I wasn't a wee tad of a hypocrite, I'd limit my comments to a PM to the moderator/administrative staff, but it seems appropriate to share that this is not a totally isolated opinion.