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Old 12-18-2011, 10:46 PM
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We need a way to get the Aptera Motors Inc. Brand Name spread around the world and we have to rebuild bridges that were burned down by the actions of Aptera Team B ran by Paul Wilbur. My proposal is to be a part of the solution to help Aptera Motors Inc. solve these two major problems is to establish the "Aptera Foundation." The "Aptera Foundation" purposes are to help support the production of Indie TV Shows, Movies, Radio Shows, Music and Etc. that would not be created without the "Aptera Foundation" financial assistance. The second reason is to spread the message of the good things Aptera Motors Inc. is doing by having a sponsorship media clip when the TV Show begins and ends. (For Example: After Pioneer One TV Show airs, a short clip comes on the TV that says, "The Aptera Foundation is proud to be a sponsor of Pioneer One." After the Clip, An Aptera Motors Inc. Ad would be shown with a customer telling a short story of why he/she loves his/her Aptera Vehicle." Pioneer One TV Show: http://www.pioneerone.tv/ Please tell me what you think so I can make this idea even better. Thanks for reading.

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Old 12-19-2011, 12:48 AM
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In another thread Truthseeker asks why Aptera had to raise money and become obligated to investors, instead of building up the company by selling one car at a time. Here he suggests a foundation to support TV show productions. In both cases it takes money to make money. You cannot build just one safe, well-tested car and sell it at a profit to keep going, and it takes a lot of money to produce TV shows etc.

Building an all-new vehicle is a very challenging project. Most conversions or one-off projects start with a known chassis, using well-proven suspension, brakes and steering. The builder puts some kind of body on it, and basically hopes they'll never get in a crash. At least they have some confidence in the safety of the chassis.

Building an all-new, high-efficiency vehicle, like an Aptera, requires a great deal of engineering and testing to ensure safety and reliability. Everything needs to be as light but strong as possible. This means no shortcuts, and not many off-the-shelf parts. Pick any moving part - for instance, a suspension member. The part has to be designed to fit within a complicated system, by someone who understands strength of materials, drawn up (probably in CAD), sent out for prototype fabrication, (probably expensive, if tooling is involved), tested for basic strength and function, exposed to all probable conditions of heat, cold, water etc, and accelerated aging tests to ensure that this part will serve safely for the life of the vehicle. Now do this for the hundreds of major parts in a car, and you understand why even a team of 70 designers working for years found it difficult to complete the job. Thus the "first car" costs tens of millions of dollars (Detroit spends a BILLION and they have a huge inventory of already proven parts to draw from). You can't GET to the point of selling the first car without major financial support.

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Old 12-19-2011, 01:34 AM
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Well said, PatQ. I was in the outskirts of the film making business. The film I wrote and produced had a budget of 250K and got over 1 million in post production for free from Warner Brothers. All of that still didn't guarantee distribution. It only took a couple idiot producers and a weak director (kinda like PBW and friends) to ruin an otherwise sellable project. They were so bad that at one point they had a buyer and they turned him down to wait for a better deal.

So unless you're related to someone who can guarantee whatever it is getting shown then production is a longshot bet at best.

Sorry to rain on your parade, Truthseeker.

Buying Tesla stock would be a better bet.
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